| so I could make a more educated decision. They wouldn't tell me if we're talking about 5 degrees or 0.2 degrees of timing, nor if the changes were at some rediculous RPM range that I'd never reach anyways... And the prospect of shipping the chip back to them and waiting for their turnaround time is not a very attractive one. Unless someone here knows anything concrete about this issue, I think I'll just keep their old version of the program. George
_________________________________________________________________________________ "The Z is the cause and the solution to all my problems" -- Me 
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